March 2014 Archives

Sun Mar 30 16:44:57 EEST 2014

Fyodor's Full Disclosure list is heavily censored and not different from Bugtraq


Long ago aleph1 sold Bugtraq.

Soon the old Full Disclosure list died in
unclear situation.

Fyodor (known mainly for nmap) started _new_ Full Disclosure
list, merged the old and the new archives, confusing
new users.

I got censored twice (on the 3rd and 4th days of the new list).

The messages were CC'ed to oss-security, available
at [1] and [2].

The first message asked why so large delays in
posting to list (turned out 2 hours and 10 minutes).

Fyodor replied everything is moderated.

None of the messages appeared on F-FD
and I got no notification of moderation.

Judge for yourself.


[1] http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2014/03/28/8
[2] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.oss.general/12465


Posted by j | Permanent link

Wed Mar 19 16:37:31 EET 2014

The discussion about new FD list is on oss-security

The discussion about new FD list is on oss-security The discussion about new FD is on oss-security

Posted by j | Permanent link

Wed Mar 19 14:48:16 EET 2014

The Full Disclosure mailing list died on 2014-03-19

There is no honour amongst hackers any more. There is no real community. There is precious little skill. The entire security game is becoming more and more regulated. This is all a sign of things to come, and a reflection on the sad state of an industry that should never have become an industry.
I'm suspending service indefinitely. Thanks for playing.

If you ask me it is time for a new list, totally unmoderated.
Let me know when it is ready.

Posted by j | Permanent link